<< >> NASA ASRS Report 127603, November 1989

Pilot of charter small aircraft impinges upon the sfo TCA while trying to obtain a clearance through the TCA.

Attributes
ACN	127603
Time
Date	198911
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : sfo airport : oak
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 2700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : oak
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air taxi
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 2400 flight time type : 200
ASRS Report	127603
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : handoff position
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

After departing oakland, was trying to get a TCA clearance direct to monterey, ca. During the course of the request, ATC got a little upset with me. I had the 090 degree radial off of sfo selected and the needle was centered, indicating I was right on the edge of the sfo TCA. It was told to remain clear. I feel that I should have given a wider berth for the TCA. ATC did not say I had violated the TCA, but it certainly was close. I climbed along the 090 degree radial and then cut south under the floor of the TCA. Riding the edge like that is not always the safest practice.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PLT OF CHARTER SMA IMPINGES UPON THE SFO TCA WHILE TRYING TO OBTAIN A CLRNC THROUGH THE TCA.

Narrative: AFTER DEPARTING OAKLAND, WAS TRYING TO GET A TCA CLRNC DIRECT TO MONTEREY, CA. DURING THE COURSE OF THE REQUEST, ATC GOT A LITTLE UPSET WITH ME. I HAD THE 090 DEG RADIAL OFF OF SFO SELECTED AND THE NEEDLE WAS CENTERED, INDICATING I WAS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE SFO TCA. IT WAS TOLD TO REMAIN CLEAR. I FEEL THAT I SHOULD HAVE GIVEN A WIDER BERTH FOR THE TCA. ATC DID NOT SAY I HAD VIOLATED THE TCA, BUT IT CERTAINLY WAS CLOSE. I CLIMBED ALONG THE 090 DEG RADIAL AND THEN CUT S UNDER THE FLOOR OF THE TCA. RIDING THE EDGE LIKE THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THE SAFEST PRACTICE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.