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Traffic management coordinator reports of issues related to flow control and the fact that when asked for an extension the air traffic control command center (atcscc) denies the request. The reporter then goes on to report that the atcscc cannot see the traffic and should not deny the controllers what they need for flow.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1254295 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201504 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZDC.ARTCC |
| State Reference | VA |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | Climb Descent Cruise |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Traffic Management |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 20 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
ZDC had convective weather from a line rdu to orf and south. Rdu northeast departures and rdu northeast arrivals are having to share the same airspace because of weather. ZDC requested ZNY and ZBW reroute rdu arrivals via J48 to stay on the back side of the weather and stay out of the departure corridor. For 4 hours the atcscc (air traffic control command center) complied and put out advisory 092. ZDC requested to extend the reroute for another 2 to 4 hours. Atcscc denied request; then the atcscc denied ZDC ntml entry to stop rdu arrivals from the east side; and finally atcscc denied ZDC request to ground stop rdu arrivals from the east side. The atcscc does not have the equipment to see our sectors; to see the deviating departing and arriving aircraft. The atcscc cannot see the sectors where aircraft are deviating and therefore should not have the power to tell ZDC that ZNY and ZBW cannot reroute rdu arrivals to the west when ZDC is trying to mitigate an unsafe situation by preventing arrivals in the corridor where departures are deviating.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Traffic Management Coordinator reports of issues related to flow control and the fact that when asked for an extension the Air Traffic Control Command Center (ATCSCC) denies the request. The reporter then goes on to report that the ATCSCC cannot see the traffic and should not deny the controllers what they need for flow.
Narrative: ZDC had convective weather from a line RDU to ORF and south. RDU NE departures and RDU NE arrivals are having to share the same airspace because of weather. ZDC requested ZNY and ZBW reroute RDU arrivals via J48 to stay on the back side of the weather and stay out of the departure corridor. For 4 hours the ATCSCC (Air Traffic Control Command Center) complied and put out advisory 092. ZDC requested to extend the reroute for another 2 to 4 hours. ATCSCC denied request; then the ATCSCC denied ZDC NTML entry to stop RDU arrivals from the east side; and finally ATCSCC denied ZDC request to ground stop RDU arrivals from the east side. The ATCSCC does not have the equipment to see our sectors; to see the deviating departing and arriving aircraft. The ATCSCC cannot see the sectors where aircraft are deviating and therefore should not have the power to tell ZDC that ZNY and ZBW cannot reroute RDU arrivals to the west when ZDC is trying to mitigate an unsafe situation by preventing arrivals in the corridor where departures are deviating.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.