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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1251741 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201503 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | SDL.Tower |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb Takeoff |
| Route In Use | Direct |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Single Pilot |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Private |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 20 Flight Crew Total 1500 Flight Crew Type 1200 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Nothing dangerous; just a suggestion from a pilot on departure protocol. Yesterday afternoon; I departed sdl westbound. I was cleared for westbound departure; runway 21. Just to the west of sdl's class D is deer valley's class D; top at 3;999 feet. So; a climb was planned to overfly deer valley at 4;500 feet. After I departed; the tower controller restricted me to 2;500 feet; just as I was nearing leaving sdl class D; and within just a few miles of deer valley. I notified the tower controller; and her response was something like 'it's your responsibility to change frequencies.' so; basically; to comply; I had to maintain 2;500 feet while in sdl class D; and then; within approximately 20-30 seconds; reach deer valley tower to obtain class D clearance. With traffic on deer valley frequency; this was not possible; which then required a sharp deviation to the north. My suggestion is for tower controllers to consider the position in which they place pilots when they restrict westbound departures to 2;500 feet; just east of deer valley class D (which extends to 3;999 feet.)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot reports of being under flight following with SDL Tower and then being dropped with very limited airspace to maneuver and avoid DVT Class Delta airspace.
Narrative: Nothing dangerous; just a suggestion from a pilot on departure protocol. Yesterday afternoon; I departed SDL westbound. I was cleared for westbound departure; runway 21. Just to the west of SDL's Class D is Deer Valley's Class D; top at 3;999 Feet. So; a climb was planned to overfly Deer Valley at 4;500 Feet. After I departed; the Tower Controller restricted me to 2;500 Feet; just as I was nearing leaving SDL Class D; and within just a few miles of Deer Valley. I notified the Tower Controller; and her response was something like 'it's your responsibility to change frequencies.' So; basically; to comply; I had to maintain 2;500 Feet while in SDL Class D; and then; within approximately 20-30 seconds; reach Deer Valley Tower to obtain Class D clearance. With traffic on Deer Valley frequency; this was not possible; which then required a sharp deviation to the north. My suggestion is for tower controllers to consider the position in which they place pilots when they restrict westbound departures to 2;500 Feet; just east of Deer Valley Class D (which extends to 3;999 Feet.)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.