Altitude deviation. Overshoot on descent. IOE training in progress.

Attributes
ACN	124998
Time
Date	198910
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : pye
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 23200 msl bound upper : 24000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zoa
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 20
ASRS Report	124998
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Initial operating experience flight for me. Far east flying (coming from domestic) and new airplane type. Check captain in right seat. Both tired. No relief , pilot flying all night from tokyo to sfo. Cleared to descend to 240. On autoplt. Check airman dials in 240, but doesn't get 'altitude select'). Discussing restriction 20 NM at sfo at 11,000 MSL and 250 KTS. (Haven't received it yet.) descend through 240 and altitude alert flashes, climb back to 240. Busted altitude by 800' by time I stopped descent. Center then cleared us to 11,000'. Perhaps checking out a new pilot on fatiguing flts isn't such a great idea. Perhaps we should at least be assigned a relief pilot. Another thing. Airplane I came from had a more advanced FMS and perhaps I was caught off guard.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ALT DEVIATION. OVERSHOOT ON DESCENT. IOE TRAINING IN PROGRESS.

Narrative: INITIAL OPERATING EXPERIENCE FLT FOR ME. FAR EAST FLYING (COMING FROM DOMESTIC) AND NEW AIRPLANE TYPE. CHECK CAPT IN RIGHT SEAT. BOTH TIRED. NO RELIEF , PLT FLYING ALL NIGHT FROM TOKYO TO SFO. CLRED TO DSND TO 240. ON AUTOPLT. CHECK AIRMAN DIALS IN 240, BUT DOESN'T GET 'ALT SELECT'). DISCUSSING RESTRICTION 20 NM AT SFO AT 11,000 MSL AND 250 KTS. (HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT YET.) DSND THROUGH 240 AND ALT ALERT FLASHES, CLIMB BACK TO 240. BUSTED ALT BY 800' BY TIME I STOPPED DSCNT. CENTER THEN CLRED US TO 11,000'. PERHAPS CHECKING OUT A NEW PLT ON FATIGUING FLTS ISN'T SUCH A GREAT IDEA. PERHAPS WE SHOULD AT LEAST BE ASSIGNED A RELIEF PLT. ANOTHER THING. AIRPLANE I CAME FROM HAD A MORE ADVANCED FMS AND PERHAPS I WAS CAUGHT OFF GUARD.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.