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Flight crew of medium large transport off course because of irregular navigation signal from gve VORTAC.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 124814 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198910 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : gve |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 28000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc tower : bos |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 124814 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 124686 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
ATC showed us 10 mi off the nanci arrival while using the gve VOR. This VOR is the worst VOR in the us; our CDI needles are back and forth while using this VOR. Gve has been very poor for at least 10 yrs--ask any pilot. This VOR should be condemned. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: the unreliability of the gve VORTAC signal has been known for yrs by all who use it. Swinging of the signal is at all altitudes. Someone will be violated one of these days for being off course.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MLG OFF COURSE BECAUSE OF IRREGULAR NAVIGATION SIGNAL FROM GVE VORTAC.
Narrative: ATC SHOWED US 10 MI OFF THE NANCI ARR WHILE USING THE GVE VOR. THIS VOR IS THE WORST VOR IN THE U.S.; OUR CDI NEEDLES ARE BACK AND FORTH WHILE USING THIS VOR. GVE HAS BEEN VERY POOR FOR AT LEAST 10 YRS--ASK ANY PLT. THIS VOR SHOULD BE CONDEMNED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: THE UNRELIABILITY OF THE GVE VORTAC SIGNAL HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR YRS BY ALL WHO USE IT. SWINGING OF THE SIGNAL IS AT ALL ALTS. SOMEONE WILL BE VIOLATED ONE OF THESE DAYS FOR BEING OFF COURSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.