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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1242368 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201502 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | CMA.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Takeoff |
| Route In Use | Other TEC Route |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Instructor |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 21 Flight Crew Total 3696 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
When preparing for takeoff camarillo airport controllers expend very precious communications (radio) time (airwave availability) on unnecessary read backs and repeated read backs. This could cause; and has caused; in some instances; missed communications with aircraft that need to contact the control tower facility. This is especially critical when the class D airspace is crowded with aircraft and aircraft operations. This could lead to confusion in the class D airspace. I would like to suggest that all communications are kept 'clear' and 'terse' due to the crowded conditions at cma airport. I have gotten complaints from other ATC facility personnel about operations at cma and unnecessary radio communications. This seems to be a 'local' camarillo issue and should be resolved with tower personnel immediately. I have personally experienced this issue with cma ground and tower personnel in the past. I have; on occasion departed the class D airspace while in the airport traffic pattern; because I have not been able to effectively break into the 'radio chatter' to make a position report. This is a safety issue and should not happen. Especially if a pilot is in the pattern.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot reports of excessive chatter on CMA Tower frequencies.
Narrative: When preparing for takeoff Camarillo Airport controllers expend very precious communications (radio) time (airwave availability) on unnecessary read backs and repeated read backs. This could cause; and has caused; in some instances; missed communications with aircraft that need to contact the control tower facility. This is especially critical when the Class D airspace is crowded with aircraft and aircraft operations. This could lead to confusion in the Class D airspace. I would like to suggest that all communications are kept 'Clear' and 'Terse' due to the crowded conditions at CMA airport. I have gotten complaints from other ATC facility personnel about operations at CMA and unnecessary radio communications. This seems to be a 'local' Camarillo issue and should be resolved with tower personnel immediately. I have personally experienced this issue with CMA ground and tower personnel in the past. I have; on occasion departed the Class D airspace while in the airport traffic pattern; because I have not been able to effectively break into the 'radio chatter' to make a position report. This is a safety issue and should not happen. Especially if a pilot is in the pattern.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.