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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1238022 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201502 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | MCX.Airport |
| State Reference | IA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Final Approach |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Flight Phase | Final Approach |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Instructor |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Instrument |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 50 Flight Crew Total 515 Flight Crew Type 100 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Conflict NMAC |
| Miss Distance | Horizontal 400 Vertical 0 |
Narrative:
A student and I departed our home airport in a piper archer; to practice takeoffs and landings at white county (mcx). Another instructor from my FBO and his student had also gone to mcx a few minutes before us in a piper warrior; and I knew in advance I would be sharing the pattern with him.after a few landings; I heard another aircraft on CTAF call in from the northeast. The pilot on the radio had a very thick accent and was difficult to understand; but I understood that he would be entering left traffic for runway 18 at mcx. Naturally I began looking for the traffic.a few minutes after that; I was on base turning final; when all of a sudden I saw a warrior ahead of us on a diagonal final to runway 18. We were lined up perfectly with the runway centerline; but this pilot had come straight in from the east-southeast. I asked the other instructor if that was him on final; and he replied 'no; that's somebody else.' sure enough; it was the difficult-to-understand pilot barreling down final.I announced on CTAF and executed a right 360 on final to provide us with additional room behind the aircraft that had just cut us off. The other instructor announced he'd extend his downwind for us. On a subsequent position announcement; I was able to make out the offending aircraft's call sign. Since the pilot was actively on the radio; I said 'aircraft on upwind at white county; you need to pay more attention; as there are two other aircraft in the pattern here besides yourself;' to which there was no response.the pilot made several additional patterns to runway 18; never making any clear sense on the radio at any point; before departing the pattern for elsewhere. I fail to understand how someone like that could become a solo-authorized student pilot or licensed pilot having no ability to communicate on the radio whatsoever; nor properly join a pattern at a non-towered airport.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA-28 Instructor Pilot experiences a NMAC with another PA-28 joining the final approach course in a non-standard fashion after not making understandable position reports on the CTAF.
Narrative: A student and I departed our home airport in a Piper Archer; to practice takeoffs and landings at White County (MCX). Another instructor from my FBO and his student had also gone to MCX a few minutes before us in a Piper Warrior; and I knew in advance I would be sharing the pattern with him.After a few landings; I heard another aircraft on CTAF call in from the northeast. The pilot on the radio had a very thick accent and was difficult to understand; but I understood that he would be entering left traffic for Runway 18 at MCX. Naturally I began looking for the traffic.A few minutes after that; I was on base turning final; when all of a sudden I saw a Warrior ahead of us on a diagonal final to Runway 18. We were lined up perfectly with the runway centerline; but this pilot had come straight in from the east-southeast. I asked the other instructor if that was him on final; and he replied 'No; that's somebody else.' Sure enough; it was the difficult-to-understand pilot barreling down final.I announced on CTAF and executed a right 360 on final to provide us with additional room behind the aircraft that had just cut us off. The other instructor announced he'd extend his downwind for us. On a subsequent position announcement; I was able to make out the offending aircraft's call sign. Since the pilot was actively on the radio; I said 'Aircraft on upwind at White County; you need to pay more attention; as there are two other aircraft in the pattern here besides yourself;' to which there was no response.The pilot made several additional patterns to Runway 18; never making any clear sense on the radio at any point; before departing the pattern for elsewhere. I fail to understand how someone like that could become a solo-authorized student pilot or licensed pilot having no ability to communicate on the radio whatsoever; nor properly join a pattern at a non-towered airport.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.