Altitude restriction not issued to a departing air carrier.

Attributes
ACN	122544
Time
Date	198909
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : sna
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3700
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : sna
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Route In Use	departure other enroute airway : sna
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 250
ASRS Report	122544
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Clearance delivery was called for clearance sna to sjc. I copied the clearance to read: 'musel 5 departure, musel, vectors sxc 084 degree right, sxc direct vtu as filed; climb to 7000', expect FL350, departure frequency 128.1, squawk XXXX.' I read the entire clearance back. After takeoff switched to 128.1, climbing through 3700' the controller asked how high we were climbing. I responded, '7000'.' he asked if we got that from tower. I said no, 'clearance delivery.' he said that the clearance should have been to 3000', but there was no problem and we could maintain 7000'. The controller said he would call sna clearance delivery and discuss it with them.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ALT RESTRICTION NOT ISSUED TO A DEPARTING ACR.

Narrative: CLRNC DELIVERY WAS CALLED FOR CLRNC SNA TO SJC. I COPIED THE CLRNC TO READ: 'MUSEL 5 DEP, MUSEL, VECTORS SXC 084 DEG R, SXC DIRECT VTU AS FILED; CLB TO 7000', EXPECT FL350, DEP FREQ 128.1, SQUAWK XXXX.' I READ THE ENTIRE CLRNC BACK. AFTER TKOF SWITCHED TO 128.1, CLBING THROUGH 3700' THE CTLR ASKED HOW HIGH WE WERE CLBING. I RESPONDED, '7000'.' HE ASKED IF WE GOT THAT FROM TWR. I SAID NO, 'CLRNC DELIVERY.' HE SAID THAT THE CLRNC SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO 3000', BUT THERE WAS NO PROB AND WE COULD MAINTAIN 7000'. THE CTLR SAID HE WOULD CALL SNA CLRNC DELIVERY AND DISCUSS IT WITH THEM.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.