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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 121583 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198908 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : alb |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1600 msl bound upper : 1700 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : alb |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| ASRS Report | 121583 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
During the past few months, alb approach (arsa) has instituted a new system of zone control. In the past, alb was divided on the 360 degree right into east and west approach/departure frequency zones. Now, if within 20 NM of alb, a pilot is to use 127.15 (west) and 124.7 (east). Outside of 20 NM, the old system holds. On 8/X/89, I was to move my aircraft from sch to alb. I called alb approach on 127.15 and was answered with, 'stay clear of the arsa.' I again called alb and received no answer. Finally, after 4-5 calls, I said, 'may I have service now(!!), please? Finally, at 7-8 mi northwest of alb, approach gave me a squawk and permission to follow another aircraft to landing. It took me 31 mins and over a dozen radio calls to get across 8 NM.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA EXPERIENCED A DELAY ENTERING AN ARSA.
Narrative: DURING THE PAST FEW MONTHS, ALB APCH (ARSA) HAS INSTITUTED A NEW SYS OF ZONE CTL. IN THE PAST, ALB WAS DIVIDED ON THE 360 DEG R INTO E AND W APCH/DEP FREQ ZONES. NOW, IF WITHIN 20 NM OF ALB, A PLT IS TO USE 127.15 (W) AND 124.7 (E). OUTSIDE OF 20 NM, THE OLD SYS HOLDS. ON 8/X/89, I WAS TO MOVE MY ACFT FROM SCH TO ALB. I CALLED ALB APCH ON 127.15 AND WAS ANSWERED WITH, 'STAY CLR OF THE ARSA.' I AGAIN CALLED ALB AND RECEIVED NO ANSWER. FINALLY, AFTER 4-5 CALLS, I SAID, 'MAY I HAVE SVC NOW(!!), PLEASE? FINALLY, AT 7-8 MI NW OF ALB, APCH GAVE ME A SQUAWK AND PERMISSION TO FOLLOW ANOTHER ACFT TO LNDG. IT TOOK ME 31 MINS AND OVER A DOZEN RADIO CALLS TO GET ACROSS 8 NM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.