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Emb-145 captain reports being vectored to a visual approach inside the FAF and too close to a heavy jet during a night approach to mem.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1210446 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201409 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | MEM.Airport |
| State Reference | TN |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER/LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Final Approach Landing |
| Route In Use | Vectors Visual Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 150 Flight Crew Total 6000 Flight Crew Type 3500 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Came in for landing with memphis center. Was given bad vectors inside of the FAF (this wasn't the first time memphis has done this late at night with [a lot of traffic] coming in) to within 3 miles of heavy aircraft in front of us and told to do a rapid descent to 3;000 and then a few seconds later told to also slow down to 170 knots and then cleared for a visual approach without being asked if we had the airport or aircraft in sight. I was so upset and looking for aircraft outside and in at the TCAS that I flew past the center line and I think even past the parallel runway centerline before correcting back.although we had the airport in sight. I wish I had refused the visual and made ATC give us better vectors even if it meant coming back around for a stable approach.most centers won't vector you in that close to aircraft or past FAF like memphis approach does and I consider it poor ATC of aircraft assuming that everyone will be visual and vectoring an IFR aircraft inside of the FAF or too close to other aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB-145 Captain reports being vectored to a visual approach inside the FAF and too close to a heavy jet during a night approach to MEM.
Narrative: Came in for landing with Memphis center. Was given bad vectors inside of the FAF (this wasn't the first time Memphis has done this late at night with [a lot of traffic] coming in) to within 3 miles of heavy aircraft in front of us and told to do a rapid descent to 3;000 and then a few seconds later told to also slow down to 170 knots and then cleared for a visual approach without being asked if we had the airport or aircraft in sight. I was so upset and looking for aircraft outside and in at the TCAS that I flew past the center line and I think even past the parallel runway centerline before correcting back.Although we had the airport in sight. I wish I had refused the visual and made ATC give us better vectors even if it meant coming back around for a stable approach.Most centers won't vector you in that close to aircraft or past FAF like Memphis approach does and I consider it poor ATC of aircraft assuming that everyone will be visual and vectoring an IFR aircraft inside of the FAF or too close to other aircraft.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.