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Pilot reports of a ATC facility forgetting about the aircraft they were flying and then flying an extra 60 miles to be able to land.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1203405 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201409 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | PHL.Airport |
| State Reference | PA |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Widebody Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Route In Use | STAR JIIMS |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
While on phl app (jiims arrival) down wind vector; 4000ft; heading 085; approach just forgot about us; we were behind another aircraft; they were vectored in for landing while we stayed on the heading 085. Flights that were behind us were now vectored in front of us for approach; we stayed heading 085. I called approach and asked how much longer on this heading; answer 8 mi. More flights were now vectored in front of us; we stayed heading 085. I called again about our sequence; phl approach response; 'who are you and where are you?' we had flown out of there airspace; they had no idea who we were. We were finally turned around over mcguire. Not a safe approach. Extra flying time; may be +20 min. And 60 miles.on the jiims arrival. We were talking to washington ctr. They transferred us to phl approach; this was also the final controller; next freq. Was the tower. Normally there is two approach freq. Phl approach followed by phl final than tower. Communication problems with approach. Keep the two approach freqs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot reports of a ATC facility forgetting about the aircraft they were flying and then flying an extra 60 miles to be able to land.
Narrative: While on Phl App (Jiims Arrival) down wind vector; 4000ft; heading 085; approach just forgot about us; we were behind another aircraft; they were vectored in for landing while we stayed on the heading 085. Flights that were behind us were now vectored in front of us for approach; we stayed heading 085. I called approach and asked how much longer on this heading; answer 8 mi. More flights were now vectored in front of us; we stayed heading 085. I called again about our sequence; PHL approach response; 'Who are you and where are you?' We had flown out of there airspace; they had no idea who we were. We were finally turned around over McGuire. Not a safe approach. Extra flying time; may be +20 min. and 60 miles.On the Jiims Arrival. We were talking to Washington Ctr. They transferred us to Phl Approach; this was also the final controller; next freq. was the tower. Normally there is two Approach freq. Phl Approach followed by Phl final than tower. Communication problems with Approach. Keep the two Approach freqs.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.