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A320 captain reports being cleared for the visual approach to runway 19L via the grnpa 1 to lemnz which is less than 3 NM from the runway end. STAR shows a 6100 foot MEA to lemnz; resulting in an unexpected close in turn to final with potential for an unstabilized approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1194296 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201408 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | L30.TRACON |
| State Reference | NV |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Final Approach |
| Route In Use | Visual Approach STAR GRNPA 1 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 75 Flight Crew Total 18000 Flight Crew Type 4000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Las grnpa 1 STAR; groundtrack cannot safely transition to RNAV 19L. We asked for direct to two fixes hamig or jognu on RNAV 19L but ATC said unable; follow grnpa 1 groundtrack; cleared visual 19L. MVA is 5200 feet and STAR shows 6100 feet MEA to lemnz. Airport elevation is 2100 feet but you cannot lose 4000 feet in 3 miles; unsafe. My third visual with exact same problem resulting in potentially unstable approaches.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 Captain reports being cleared for the visual approach to Runway 19L via the GRNPA 1 to LEMNZ which is less than 3 NM from the runway end. STAR shows a 6100 foot MEA to LEMNZ; resulting in an unexpected close in turn to final with potential for an unstabilized approach.
Narrative: LAS GRNPA 1 STAR; groundtrack cannot safely transition to RNAV 19L. We asked for direct to two fixes HAMIG or JOGNU on RNAV 19L but ATC said unable; follow GRNPA 1 groundtrack; cleared visual 19L. MVA is 5200 feet and STAR shows 6100 feet MEA to LEMNZ. Airport elevation is 2100 feet but you cannot lose 4000 feet in 3 miles; unsafe. My third visual with exact same problem resulting in potentially unstable approaches.
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