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Company approved published chart showed left turn out. TRACON advised flight crew right turn out was their procedure.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 118710 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198908 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : gdl |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : gdl |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 118710 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Airport | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We flew the IFR departure as per our special page including left turn at 4 DME taking off of runway 28. After passing back over VOR, and getting cleared to climb on course up J7 by guadalajara departure, they told us the IFR procedure is to turn right to fly back over the VOR then etc. Either our company hasn't updated our procedures or gdl departure is keeping the new procedure a secret from the united states. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: advised company management re the incorrect turn on the departure chart for guadalajara and it was immediately changed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMPANY APPROVED PUBLISHED CHART SHOWED LEFT TURN OUT. TRACON ADVISED FLT CREW RIGHT TURN OUT WAS THEIR PROC.
Narrative: WE FLEW THE IFR DEP AS PER OUR SPECIAL PAGE INCLUDING LEFT TURN AT 4 DME TAKING OFF OF RWY 28. AFTER PASSING BACK OVER VOR, AND GETTING CLRED TO CLIMB ON COURSE UP J7 BY GUADALAJARA DEP, THEY TOLD US THE IFR PROC IS TO TURN RIGHT TO FLY BACK OVER THE VOR THEN ETC. EITHER OUR COMPANY HASN'T UPDATED OUR PROCS OR GDL DEP IS KEEPING THE NEW PROC A SECRET FROM THE UNITED STATES. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: ADVISED COMPANY MGMNT RE THE INCORRECT TURN ON THE DEP CHART FOR GUADALAJARA AND IT WAS IMMEDIATELY CHANGED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.