 |
37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Flight inspector and first officer had conversation while aircraft was parked waiting for takeoff clearance. Inspector later mentioned to captain the sterile cockpit rule.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 117311 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198907 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : stl |
| State Reference | MO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 6500 |
| ASRS Report | 117311 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I had FAA inspector on jump seat. He and first officer were talking while waiting on the ground for takeoff while stopped with the brakes parked. He then mentioned it when leaving aircraft at destination. I told him I thought we were not taxiing when sitting still with the brakes parked. I wish this could be clarified as I heard about someone getting a violation for making a passenger announcement while stopped. Shall we use common sense and good judgement or not?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT INSPECTOR AND FO HAD CONVERSATION WHILE ACFT WAS PARKED WAITING FOR TKOF CLRNC. INSPECTOR LATER MENTIONED TO CAPT THE STERILE COCKPIT RULE.
Narrative: I HAD FAA INSPECTOR ON JUMP SEAT. HE AND F/O WERE TALKING WHILE WAITING ON THE GND FOR TKOF WHILE STOPPED WITH THE BRAKES PARKED. HE THEN MENTIONED IT WHEN LEAVING ACFT AT DEST. I TOLD HIM I THOUGHT WE WERE NOT TAXIING WHEN SITTING STILL WITH THE BRAKES PARKED. I WISH THIS COULD BE CLARIFIED AS I HEARD ABOUT SOMEONE GETTING A VIOLATION FOR MAKING A PAX ANNOUNCEMENT WHILE STOPPED. SHALL WE USE COMMON SENSE AND GOOD JUDGEMENT OR NOT?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.