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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1171744 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201405 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | N90.TRACON |
| State Reference | NY |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Instructor Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 10 Flight Crew Total 2240 Flight Crew Type 600 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Conflict NMAC |
| Miss Distance | Horizontal 0 Vertical 300 |
Narrative:
The training flight was conducted under 'radar services'; where the original frequency was only working between the altitudes of 3;500 and 4;000 ft. During the descent; tried many times to get a hold of the ny TRACON on 120.15; trying to cancel flight following. While descending between 3;800-3;500 ft the radio reception got weaker; and tried to go back to 4;000 feet to make a last attempt to cancel radar services; as we were reaching 3;800 ft; on the radio; heard someone say to stop descent at for traffic; followed a few seconds later [by an aircraft] flying overhead. Right away we rapidly descended to 2;500 ft to clear any possible conflict and stay clear of class 'B' ahead; as the approach continued; tried different frequencies; with no luck. Once on the ground; call ny TRACON via the phone line to inform them we were safe on the ground; and due to radio coverage and volume; it was impossible to cancel in the air.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 instructor reports difficulty canceling flight following with NY TRACON during descent due to a weak radio or lack of VHF coverage. Climbing to regain VHF contact results in a NMAC. Flight following is canceled on the ground.
Narrative: The training flight was conducted under 'Radar Services'; where the original frequency was only working between the altitudes of 3;500 and 4;000 FT. During the descent; tried many times to get a hold of the NY TRACON on 120.15; trying to cancel flight following. While descending between 3;800-3;500 FT the radio reception got weaker; and tried to go back to 4;000 feet to make a last attempt to cancel radar services; as we were reaching 3;800 FT; on the radio; heard someone say to stop descent at for traffic; followed a few seconds later [by an aircraft] flying overhead. Right away we rapidly descended to 2;500 FT to clear any possible conflict and stay clear of Class 'B' ahead; as the approach continued; tried different frequencies; with no luck. Once on the ground; call NY TRACON via the phone line to inform them we were safe on the ground; and due to radio coverage and volume; it was impossible to cancel in the air.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.