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After issuing a delay radar vector approach apparently forgot about reporter aircraft for a period of time.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 117145 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198907 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7100 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 117145 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
2 unsafe events occurred while en route from den to jfk. The first occurred while being vectored by approach into jfk. After extensive vectoring, approach control vectored us away from a course that would intercept the final approach course. We were headed about a 60 degree angle away from the airport. After we were well out of sight of the airport and heading away from it, we were cleared for a visual approach. When I told him our heading, he gave us another heading back toward the airport and said to let him know when we saw it. After 4 or 5 miles we saw it again and landed visually at jfk. I think approach control completely forgot about us. We were headed over the ocean nearly to the jersey shore, at 1500' AGL, during the off course vector.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER ISSUING A DELAY RADAR VECTOR APCH APPARENTLY FORGOT ABOUT REPORTER ACFT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
Narrative: 2 UNSAFE EVENTS OCCURRED WHILE ENRTE FROM DEN TO JFK. THE FIRST OCCURRED WHILE BEING VECTORED BY APCH INTO JFK. AFTER EXTENSIVE VECTORING, APCH CTL VECTORED US AWAY FROM A COURSE THAT WOULD INTERCEPT THE FINAL APCH COURSE. WE WERE HEADED ABOUT A 60 DEG ANGLE AWAY FROM THE ARPT. AFTER WE WERE WELL OUT OF SIGHT OF THE ARPT AND HDG AWAY FROM IT, WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH. WHEN I TOLD HIM OUR HDG, HE GAVE US ANOTHER HDG BACK TOWARD THE ARPT AND SAID TO LET HIM KNOW WHEN WE SAW IT. AFTER 4 OR 5 MILES WE SAW IT AGAIN AND LANDED VISUALLY AT JFK. I THINK APCH CTL COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT US. WE WERE HEADED OVER THE OCEAN NEARLY TO THE JERSEY SHORE, AT 1500' AGL, DURING THE OFF COURSE VECTOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.