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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1168389 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201405 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | PCT.TRACON |
| State Reference | VA |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | Other Instrument Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Approach |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 6 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
I was working the feed sector for dca when the event happened. I feed the controller one nonstandard aircraft but I [coordinated] it before handoff and it was approved. I do not know why the controller set the sequence he did however it was clearly not going to work. When aircraft X said they were too high for the approach 2 miles out flying a 250 heading at 3;000 feet the final controller appeared stunned. I suggested a 270 heading to him which the controller did not like. He chose a heading of 160 directly back into the final with aircraft on the final out to 25 DME. I then made my opinion clearer that a 270 heading is what we needed and I was again written off.I would have spoke up sooner when I saw the situation developing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PCT Controller reports of coordination problem between two controllers which leads to aircraft having to be re-sequenced.
Narrative: I was working the feed sector for DCA when the event happened. I feed the controller one nonstandard aircraft but I [coordinated] it before handoff and it was approved. I do not know why the Controller set the sequence he did however it was clearly not going to work. When Aircraft X said they were too high for the approach 2 miles out flying a 250 heading at 3;000 feet the final Controller appeared stunned. I suggested a 270 heading to him which the Controller did not like. He chose a heading of 160 directly back into the final with aircraft on the final out to 25 DME. I then made my opinion clearer that a 270 heading is what we needed and I was again written off.I would have spoke up sooner when I saw the situation developing.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.