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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 116794 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198907 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lgb |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 135 flight time total : 2900 flight time type : 369 |
| ASRS Report | 116794 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 250 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were given a turn from 180 to 120 degree while in a descent to 5000'. The captain noticed an aircraft climbing at our 11 O'clock position and approximately 1 mi. He initiated a climb to avoid the aircraft. Our altitude was 6100' when we crossed over the top of the other aircraft. I immediately asked the controller why he didn't report the traffic to us. The controller responded, telling us there was no target on the screen. A newer more advanced radar system in the los angeles basin is needed and would prevent a recurrence from happening.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX COMMUTER LTT-UNK 3 NM SOUTH OF LGB WORKING SNA.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A TURN FROM 180 TO 120 DEG WHILE IN A DESCENT TO 5000'. THE CAPT NOTICED AN ACFT CLIMBING AT OUR 11 O'CLOCK POSITION AND APPROX 1 MI. HE INITIATED A CLIMB TO AVOID THE ACFT. OUR ALT WAS 6100' WHEN WE CROSSED OVER THE TOP OF THE OTHER ACFT. I IMMEDIATELY ASKED THE CTLR WHY HE DIDN'T REPORT THE TFC TO US. THE CTLR RESPONDED, TELLING US THERE WAS NO TARGET ON THE SCREEN. A NEWER MORE ADVANCED RADAR SYSTEM IN THE LOS ANGELES BASIN IS NEEDED AND WOULD PREVENT A RECURRENCE FROM HAPPENING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.