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CRJ200 captain reports the de-ice crew not performing a tactile check after deicing with type I fluid and prior to applying type iv fluid. The process is repeated with the missing step included.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1156007 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201403 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Taxi |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We pushed back and light freezing rain was falling. Aircraft had accumulated a substantial amount of ice and snow since it sat overnight. We requested type I and iv fluid. De-icing crew had to spray twice with type 1 to remove all the contaminants. I then noticed that they had sprayed the left wing with type iv; but I had not seen them do a tactile check before applying type iv. I asked the de-icing crew if they had done the check and they said they had not; but would be doing it after type iv was applied. I informed them that it needed to be done before the type iv was applied and I had them remove the type iv from the wing and reapply it after doing a tactile check. Besides being proper procedure; I feel that the tactile check was crucial before applying type 4 to make sure that no ice would be under the type 4 fluid due to the light freezing rain falling at the time. Ground crews need to be better trained in the de-icing of our aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ200 Captain reports the de-ice crew not performing a tactile check after deicing with type I fluid and prior to applying type IV fluid. The process is repeated with the missing step included.
Narrative: We pushed back and light freezing rain was falling. Aircraft had accumulated a substantial amount of ice and snow since it sat overnight. We requested type I and IV fluid. De-icing crew had to spray twice with type 1 to remove all the contaminants. I then noticed that they had sprayed the left wing with type IV; but I had not seen them do a tactile check before applying type IV. I asked the de-icing crew if they had done the check and they said they had not; but would be doing it after type IV was applied. I informed them that it needed to be done before the type IV was applied and I had them remove the type IV from the wing and reapply it after doing a tactile check. Besides being proper procedure; I feel that the tactile check was crucial before applying type 4 to make sure that no ice would be under the type 4 fluid due to the light freezing rain falling at the time. Ground crews need to be better trained in the de-icing of our aircraft.
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