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Air carrier flight crew executed a go-around after being vectored through the centerline; and in close and high for a visual approach to las.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1148600 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201402 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | LAS.Airport |
| State Reference | NV |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
Event started on left downwind for 01R at las; cf fix in the mcdu for guidance. Assigned speed and altitude; no relief until vectored through the centerline; at which time clearance for visual was given. At this point we were very close and very high; due to ATC. We determined that a safe and stable approach could not be made; and executed a go-around; and advised ATC. As we passed 4;200 ft; busy configuring; still at toga; ATC assigned us 4;000 ft. We advised unable. As we passed 5;100 ft; ATC assigned us 5;000 ft; we advised unable. ATC then assigned 7;000. We leveled off at 7;000; and accelerated to 230 KTS; clean configuration. Received vectors for ILS 01L; landing uneventful.all approaches in las have a missed approach altitude of 6;000 ft. If we did not have to chance that in the middle of a go-around; it would relieve us from talking to ATC; and we can concentrate on flying and reconfiguring. Also controllers must realize that when an aircraft is climbing through or is close to an altitude on a go-around; it will not be able to level off there. And finally; controllers should not try to vector an aircraft close in and high and still expect that it can land.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier flight crew executed a go-around after being vectored through the centerline; and in close and high for a visual approach to LAS.
Narrative: Event started on left downwind for 01R at LAS; CF fix in the MCDU for guidance. Assigned speed and altitude; no relief until vectored through the centerline; at which time clearance for visual was given. At this point we were very close and very high; due to ATC. We determined that a safe and stable approach could not be made; and executed a go-around; and advised ATC. As we passed 4;200 FT; busy configuring; still at TOGA; ATC assigned us 4;000 FT. We advised unable. As we passed 5;100 FT; ATC assigned us 5;000 FT; we advised unable. ATC then assigned 7;000. We leveled off at 7;000; and accelerated to 230 KTS; clean configuration. Received vectors for ILS 01L; landing uneventful.All approaches in LAS have a missed approach altitude of 6;000 FT. If we did not have to chance that in the middle of a go-around; it would relieve us from talking to ATC; and we can concentrate on flying and reconfiguring. Also controllers must realize that when an aircraft is climbing through or is close to an altitude on a go-around; it will not be able to level off there. And finally; controllers should not try to vector an aircraft close in and high and still expect that it can land.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.