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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 113794 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198906 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : tol |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| ASRS Report | 113794 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 25500 vertical : 800 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was working and/or watching 8-10 aircraft. Some aircraft were deviating for WX. Air carrier X entered my sector on V275 at FL240. Air carrier Y was 4 mi behind him at FL200. Air carrier X was 60 KTS faster. I started air carrier X down to FL230. I descended air carrier Y to 17,000 and turned him to 340 degree. When I got some spacing between air carrier X and air carrier Y, I descended air carrier X to 20,000. I turned air carrier X to a 330 heading and descended him to 10,000. There was 8 mi between air carrier X and air carrier Y. Just to be sure, I expedited air carrier X's descent and turned him to 290 degree for about 15 seconds, then turned him back to 030 degree, once he was clear of the pointout. I failed to turn air carrier Y further left thinking I had enough room. Air carrier Y caught air carrier X on the back side.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RADAR VECTORS TO AVOID OTHER ACFT RESULTED IN ACR Y OVERTAKING ACR X.
Narrative: I WAS WORKING AND/OR WATCHING 8-10 ACFT. SOME ACFT WERE DEVIATING FOR WX. ACR X ENTERED MY SECTOR ON V275 AT FL240. ACR Y WAS 4 MI BEHIND HIM AT FL200. ACR X WAS 60 KTS FASTER. I STARTED ACR X DOWN TO FL230. I DESCENDED ACR Y TO 17,000 AND TURNED HIM TO 340 DEG. WHEN I GOT SOME SPACING BETWEEN ACR X AND ACR Y, I DESCENDED ACR X TO 20,000. I TURNED ACR X TO A 330 HDG AND DESCENDED HIM TO 10,000. THERE WAS 8 MI BETWEEN ACR X AND ACR Y. JUST TO BE SURE, I EXPEDITED ACR X'S DSCNT AND TURNED HIM TO 290 DEG FOR ABOUT 15 SECONDS, THEN TURNED HIM BACK TO 030 DEG, ONCE HE WAS CLEAR OF THE POINTOUT. I FAILED TO TURN ACR Y FURTHER LEFT THINKING I HAD ENOUGH ROOM. ACR Y CAUGHT ACR X ON THE BACK SIDE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.