Close proximity air carrier-widebody transport GA-unk flying VFR northeast of jfk.

Attributes
ACN	112411
Time
Date	198905
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jfk
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 10500 msl bound upper : 10500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 800
ASRS Report	112411
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	112408
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 2500 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

We departed jfk and were climbing towards greki intersection, the first officer was flying. Position was 30 mi southwest of carmel VOR when the incident occurred. The controller called traffic at 10 O'clock 10-12 mi, I'm not sure of range. I saw strobes for a moment but lost them. Approaching 10,500' controller ordered level off and we maintained 10,500'. I believe the controller's last traffic call was 10 O'clock at 2 mi. I picked up the traffic about 11 O'clock almost level, it looked like we would be very close to the traffic so I took the aircraft and started a left turn and traffic started to track across our nose. I estimate traffic passed level 12 O'clock and less than 1/2 mi. The conflict aircraft was VFR with radar flight following. Better coordination between controllers would have prevented this incident. Supplemental information from acn 112420: I received a handoff and was talking to air carrier widebody transport in jfk departure's airspace. I observed a tracked VFR aircraft on a converging course with air carrier widebody transport and took action to avoid a conflict.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLOSE PROX ACR-WDB GA-UNK FLYING VFR NE OF JFK.

Narrative: WE DEPARTED JFK AND WERE CLBING TOWARDS GREKI INTXN, THE F/O WAS FLYING. POSITION WAS 30 MI SW OF CARMEL VOR WHEN THE INCIDENT OCCURRED. THE CTLR CALLED TFC AT 10 O'CLOCK 10-12 MI, I'M NOT SURE OF RANGE. I SAW STROBES FOR A MOMENT BUT LOST THEM. APCHING 10,500' CTLR ORDERED LEVEL OFF AND WE MAINTAINED 10,500'. I BELIEVE THE CTLR'S LAST TFC CALL WAS 10 O'CLOCK AT 2 MI. I PICKED UP THE TFC ABOUT 11 O'CLOCK ALMOST LEVEL, IT LOOKED LIKE WE WOULD BE VERY CLOSE TO THE TFC SO I TOOK THE ACFT AND STARTED A LEFT TURN AND TFC STARTED TO TRACK ACROSS OUR NOSE. I ESTIMATE TFC PASSED LEVEL 12 O'CLOCK AND LESS THAN 1/2 MI. THE CONFLICT ACFT WAS VFR WITH RADAR FLT FOLLOWING. BETTER COORD BETWEEN CTLRS WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS INCIDENT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FROM ACN 112420: I RECEIVED A HANDOFF AND WAS TALKING TO ACR WDB IN JFK DEP'S AIRSPACE. I OBSERVED A TRACKED VFR ACFT ON A CONVERGING COURSE WITH ACR WDB AND TOOK ACTION TO AVOID A CONFLICT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.