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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : ded|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 100|
agl bound upper : 100
|Controlling Facilities||tower : ewr|
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||climbout : takeoff|
|Function||instruction : instructor|
|Qualification||pilot : cfi|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 70|
flight time total : 275
flight time type : 270
|Function||instruction : trainee|
|Qualification||pilot : student|
|Anomaly||incursion : runway|
|Independent Detector||other other : unspecified|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : unable|
none taken : detected after the fact
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
Poor preflight action by myself and the student failed to recognize that ded forbids touch and go operations indefinitely per southeast AFD. We proceeded to ded and performed a touch and go at the uncontrolled field. Someone at unicom at the field informed us on upwind that touch and go's were forbidden and said that he told us on short final. We did not hear that call. Corrective actions: no more touch and go's will be performed at ded by this pilot. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter states he has received no follow up from FAA. Indicated upon questioning that flight school does not provide airport facility directory. When asked how he teaches preparation for x-country planning, he did indicate students sometimes buy airport facility directory and always request NOTAMS from FSS. Feels he certainly learned from this mistake.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT ON TRAINING FLT DID TOUCH AND GO AT UNCONTROLLED ARPT. UNICOM OPERATOR INFORMED THAT TOUCH AND GO NOT ALLOWED AT THAT ARPT, AND HAD SO INFORMED ACFT ON FINAL APCH. INFORMATION IS IN ARPT FAC DIRECTORY.
Narrative: POOR PREFLT ACTION BY MYSELF AND THE STUDENT FAILED TO RECOGNIZE THAT DED FORBIDS TOUCH AND GO OPS INDEFINITELY PER SE AFD. WE PROCEEDED TO DED AND PERFORMED A TOUCH AND GO AT THE UNCONTROLLED FIELD. SOMEONE AT UNICOM AT THE FIELD INFORMED US ON UPWIND THAT TOUCH AND GO'S WERE FORBIDDEN AND SAID THAT HE TOLD US ON SHORT FINAL. WE DID NOT HEAR THAT CALL. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS: NO MORE TOUCH AND GO'S WILL BE PERFORMED AT DED BY THIS PLT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATES HE HAS RECEIVED NO FOLLOW UP FROM FAA. INDICATED UPON QUESTIONING THAT FLT SCHOOL DOES NOT PROVIDE ARPT FAC DIRECTORY. WHEN ASKED HOW HE TEACHES PREPARATION FOR X-COUNTRY PLANNING, HE DID INDICATE STUDENTS SOMETIMES BUY ARPT FAC DIRECTORY AND ALWAYS REQUEST NOTAMS FROM FSS. FEELS HE CERTAINLY LEARNED FROM THIS MISTAKE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.