Possible aerobatics over populated area.

Attributes
ACN	109634
Time
Date	198904
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : spx
State Reference	TX
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 4000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : hou tower : spx
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1750
ASRS Report	109634
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

I was teaching aerobatics to a student in an small aircraft about 2 mi east of houston gulf airport. At the completion of the lesson I was asked to call approach control and speak to an inspector. I did and was told that I had not been in a legal practice area, that I was on V198. When I pointed out that I was well south of V198, I was informed that it was not V198, but an approach route to hobby airport. I have not to date found the regulation which was that approach routes are illegal, or even the dimensions of approach routes. I have since heard a rumor that I was reported from another aircraft which first thought my aircraft was black, then red, and finally white and red (it is actually white with red and blue trim). The pilot was unable to get my large north #'south. He stated that I was going straight up and down and diving 'toward' a housing development. We were across highway 146 from baycliff subdivision, but never crossed the highway and we were never over any populated area during the training flight. The small aircraft Y pilot was correct in that we were going straight up and down. Going straight down we could easily see our exact location and it was never at any time over houses.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: POSSIBLE AEROBATICS OVER POPULATED AREA.

Narrative: I WAS TEACHING AEROBATICS TO A STUDENT IN AN SMA ABOUT 2 MI E OF HOUSTON GULF ARPT. AT THE COMPLETION OF THE LESSON I WAS ASKED TO CALL APCH CTL AND SPEAK TO AN INSPECTOR. I DID AND WAS TOLD THAT I HAD NOT BEEN IN A LEGAL PRACTICE AREA, THAT I WAS ON V198. WHEN I POINTED OUT THAT I WAS WELL S OF V198, I WAS INFORMED THAT IT WAS NOT V198, BUT AN APCH ROUTE TO HOBBY ARPT. I HAVE NOT TO DATE FOUND THE REG WHICH WAS THAT APCH ROUTES ARE ILLEGAL, OR EVEN THE DIMENSIONS OF APCH ROUTES. I HAVE SINCE HEARD A RUMOR THAT I WAS RPTED FROM ANOTHER ACFT WHICH FIRST THOUGHT MY ACFT WAS BLACK, THEN RED, AND FINALLY WHITE AND RED (IT IS ACTUALLY WHITE WITH RED AND BLUE TRIM). THE PLT WAS UNABLE TO GET MY LARGE N #'S. HE STATED THAT I WAS GOING STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN AND DIVING 'TOWARD' A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. WE WERE ACROSS HWY 146 FROM BAYCLIFF SUBDIVISION, BUT NEVER CROSSED THE HWY AND WE WERE NEVER OVER ANY POPULATED AREA DURING THE TRNING FLT. THE SMA Y PLT WAS CORRECT IN THAT WE WERE GOING STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN. GOING STRAIGHT DOWN WE COULD EASILY SEE OUR EXACT LOCATION AND IT WAS NEVER AT ANY TIME OVER HOUSES.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.