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A B737-700 flight crew; cleared by a pre departure clearance to depart abq on the '...mnzno departure; maintain 9;000 ft...' was re-cleared after takeoff to 'climb to FL200' by departure control. This clearance was given prior to yuglo which is restricted to be crossed 'at or below 9;000 ft. Confusion ensued as the flight crew was uncertain whether departure's clearance relieved them from the restriction at yuglo.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1094991 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201306 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ABQ.Airport |
| State Reference | NM |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-700 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 180 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 238 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Altitude Overshoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We departed abq on the mnzno RNAV SID. Several miles prior to yuglu; which has [an at or below] 9;000 ft published restriction; ATC cleared us to climb to FL200. He did not use the 'climb via' verbiage. The clearance was [simply to] '...climb and maintain FL200.' the pilot flying removed the 9;000 ft restriction from the legs page.we were both; however; not sure if that's what ATC wanted so; after a few seconds waiting for the frequency to clear; I asked ATC if that clearance was unrestricted? He replied; 'comply with all restrictions.' at this point; we were climbing through 9;000 ft and got to about 9;300 ft before leveling off at 9;000 ft. After discussing the situation with the PF; we both were under the impression that when ATC issues an amended altitude clearance on a SID and doesn't use the 'climb via' or other limiting verbiage that the SID's altitude restrictions are deleted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-700 flight crew; cleared by a PDC to depart ABQ on the '...MNZNO departure; maintain 9;000 FT...' was re-cleared after takeoff to 'climb to FL200' by Departure Control. This clearance was given prior to YUGLO which is restricted to be crossed 'at or below 9;000 FT. Confusion ensued as the flight crew was uncertain whether departure's clearance relieved them from the restriction at YUGLO.
Narrative: We departed ABQ on the MNZNO RNAV SID. Several miles prior to YUGLU; which has [an at or below] 9;000 FT published restriction; ATC cleared us to climb to FL200. He did not use the 'climb via' verbiage. The clearance was [simply to] '...climb and maintain FL200.' The pilot flying removed the 9;000 FT restriction from the LEGS page.We were both; however; not sure if that's what ATC wanted so; after a few seconds waiting for the frequency to clear; I asked ATC if that clearance was unrestricted? He replied; 'Comply with all restrictions.' At this point; we were climbing through 9;000 FT and got to about 9;300 FT before leveling off at 9;000 FT. After discussing the situation with the PF; we both were under the impression that when ATC issues an amended altitude clearance on a SID and doesn't use the 'climb via' or other limiting verbiage that the SID's altitude restrictions are deleted.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.