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A captain briefed the taxi procedure from the den freight ramp to the runways including the a hold point; but did not see the hold point on the taxiway and suggested a better chart depiction.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1089493 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201305 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | DEN.Airport |
| State Reference | CO |
| Environment | |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance Ground Incursion Taxiway |
Narrative:
Taxi out from den ramp; instructed behind traffic taxi sa; a; a hold point. The company ramp procedures were briefed to include the requirement to hold at the a hold point and contact ground. We taxied as instructed but missed the hold point for a. Apparently it is very close the sa and was missed coming out of the turn from sa onto a. We contacted ground without issue and continued with a normal flight. Having briefed the procedure we were looking for the hold point to be further up a. We were following traffic that did not stop at the hold point and were looking for the hold point to be further up a. The ramp pages do a good job of describing the procedure but do not show a very good depiction of its actual location.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A Captain briefed the taxi procedure from the DEN Freight Ramp to the runways including the A hold point; but did not see the hold point on the taxiway and suggested a better chart depiction.
Narrative: Taxi out from DEN ramp; instructed behind traffic taxi SA; A; A hold point. The Company ramp procedures were briefed to include the requirement to hold at the A hold point and contact Ground. We taxied as instructed but missed the hold point for A. Apparently it is very close the SA and was missed coming out of the turn from SA onto A. We contacted Ground without issue and continued with a normal flight. Having briefed the procedure we were looking for the hold point to be further up A. We were following traffic that did not stop at the hold point and were looking for the hold point to be further up A. The Ramp Pages do a good job of describing the procedure but do not show a very good depiction of its actual location.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.