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After receiving a clearance to fly a heading to intercept an airway; a G4 flight crew interpreted a subsequent heading as an intercept also. Controller advised that the second heading was not an intercept.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1085883 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201305 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZMA.ARTCC |
| State Reference | FL |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Gulfstream IV / G350 / G450 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 100 Flight Crew Total 10000 Flight Crew Type 3500 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
We were...heading 050 and given the clearance; 'turn 030; join A699.' after acknowledging that clearance the controller said; 'make it a 010 heading;' to which the copilot said; 'okay; 010 to join.' we then got a frequency change. As the FMS joined A699 I saw a TCAS target about 20 miles or so to our east and was about to say something when the new controller said; 'are you on a 010 heading?' the copilot said; 'we were; but were given a clearance to join the airway on that heading.' the new controller gave us a turn to 360. After a minute or so he asked again; 'so were you assigned a 010 heading?' the copilot said; 'we were given a 010 heading to join the airway; but now we are heading 360.' nothing else was said after that point. When the controller initially said; 'make it a 010 heading;' my initial reaction was to ask if he still wanted us to join A699; but since the copilot said; '010 to join' I thought our instructions were clear. Perhaps the controller heard what he wanted to hear; as did we. It is the age old lesson again: when in doubt; ask.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: After receiving a clearance to fly a heading to intercept an airway; a G4 flight crew interpreted a subsequent heading as an intercept also. Controller advised that the second heading was not an intercept.
Narrative: We were...heading 050 and given the clearance; 'Turn 030; join A699.' After acknowledging that clearance the Controller said; 'Make it a 010 heading;' to which the Copilot said; 'Okay; 010 to join.' We then got a frequency change. As the FMS joined A699 I saw a TCAS target about 20 miles or so to our east and was about to say something when the new Controller said; 'Are you on a 010 heading?' The Copilot said; 'We were; but were given a clearance to join the airway on that heading.' The new Controller gave us a turn to 360. After a minute or so he asked again; 'So were you assigned a 010 heading?' The Copilot said; 'We were given a 010 heading to join the airway; but now we are heading 360.' Nothing else was said after that point. When the Controller initially said; 'Make it a 010 heading;' my initial reaction was to ask if he still wanted us to join A699; but since the Copilot said; '010 to join' I thought our instructions were clear. Perhaps the Controller heard what he wanted to hear; as did we. It is the age old lesson again: when in doubt; ask.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.