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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1078024 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201304 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | MD-11 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Component | |
| Aircraft Component | Pneumatic System |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Critical Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
On departure we received a level one alert (ice det single) followed quickly by another level one alert (air system 1 off). The first officer flew the jet while I worked radios and checklists. After reading the level one info; I didn't feel we had a manifold failure - just an anti ice issue and attempted to repressurize the system by introducing air from system 2. I then received a level 3 (manifold fail) warning. We complied with the appropriate emergency checklists and returned to [our departure airport]. The warning only lasted a few seconds as I cut off the air when the warning came on. Maintenance believes the manifold came apart during takeoff. The first officer believes he heard a noise on takeoff roll. The level one warnings were inhibited until 400 ft. My action of trying to get the number 1 system back didn't cause the manifold failure; it only brought it to our attention.I think the reading of the level one alert could be more directive. It states not to repressurize the system if the manifold has failed. I didn't believe we had a manifold fail. It should simply state 'don't repressurize'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Following an analysis of ice control and pneumatic manifold anomalies the flight crew of an MD-11 returned to their departure airport for maintenance.
Narrative: On departure we received a level one alert (Ice Det Single) followed quickly by another level one alert (Air System 1 off). The First Officer flew the jet while I worked radios and checklists. After reading the level one info; I didn't feel we had a manifold failure - just an anti ice issue and attempted to repressurize the system by introducing air from system 2. I then received a level 3 (manifold fail) warning. We complied with the appropriate emergency checklists and returned to [our departure airport]. The warning only lasted a few seconds as I cut off the air when the warning came on. Maintenance believes the manifold came apart during takeoff. The First Officer believes he heard a noise on takeoff roll. The level one warnings were inhibited until 400 FT. My action of trying to get the number 1 system back didn't cause the manifold failure; it only brought it to our attention.I think the reading of the level one alert could be more directive. It states not to repressurize the system if the manifold has failed. I didn't believe we had a manifold fail. It should simply state 'don't repressurize'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.