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|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : ewr|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 900|
msl bound upper : 900
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : n90|
|Operator||general aviation : corporate|
|Make Model Name||Helicopter|
|Navigation In Use||Other|
|Flight Phase||descent : approach|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 200|
flight time total : 15000
flight time type : 175
|Function||controller : approach|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||non adherence : far|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Primary Problem||Navigational Facility|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
|ATC Facility||procedure or policy : unspecified|
We took off from a route heliport which lies under the new york TCA. We climbed to 900' and contacted ewr approach controller. The controller was quite busy, but we did receive a clearance to cross ewr at 1400'. At that time another controller came on the frequency and told us we were 2 mi inside the TCA. We were navigating with the FMS. It appeared to us we were still outside the TCA. Contributing factors were the busy frequency, a new controller and our relying too heavily on the navigation system. With all the traffic in and around the TCA (fixed wing and rotary) and the speed with which these aircraft fly, the frequencys can become very congested. We feel it is very dangerous to be circling around at 900' waiting for our turn. There should be special corridors to operate helicopters back and forth from the city and just use 123.05 and not involving ATC. On some of our flts, which are 20 mins duration, it is possible to be switching frequencys 5-10 times. This takes away from looking for traffic and navigating.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF HELICOPTER INTRUDED EWR TCA BEFORE BEING CLEARED.
Narrative: WE TOOK OFF FROM A ROUTE HELIPORT WHICH LIES UNDER THE NEW YORK TCA. WE CLBED TO 900' AND CONTACTED EWR APCH CTLR. THE CTLR WAS QUITE BUSY, BUT WE DID RECEIVE A CLRNC TO CROSS EWR AT 1400'. AT THAT TIME ANOTHER CTLR CAME ON THE FREQ AND TOLD US WE WERE 2 MI INSIDE THE TCA. WE WERE NAVIGATING WITH THE FMS. IT APPEARED TO US WE WERE STILL OUTSIDE THE TCA. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE THE BUSY FREQ, A NEW CTLR AND OUR RELYING TOO HEAVILY ON THE NAV SYS. WITH ALL THE TFC IN AND AROUND THE TCA (FIXED WING AND ROTARY) AND THE SPD WITH WHICH THESE ACFT FLY, THE FREQS CAN BECOME VERY CONGESTED. WE FEEL IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO BE CIRCLING AROUND AT 900' WAITING FOR OUR TURN. THERE SHOULD BE SPECIAL CORRIDORS TO OPERATE HELIS BACK AND FORTH FROM THE CITY AND JUST USE 123.05 AND NOT INVOLVING ATC. ON SOME OF OUR FLTS, WHICH ARE 20 MINS DURATION, IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE SWITCHING FREQS 5-10 TIMES. THIS TAKES AWAY FROM LOOKING FOR TFC AND NAVIGATING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.