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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||airport : btv|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||landing other|
|Function||instruction : instructor|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : cfi|
pilot : instrument
pilot : commercial
pilot : private
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 50|
flight time total : 350
|Function||instruction : trainee|
|Anomaly||incursion : runway|
non adherence : clearance
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
none taken : anomaly accepted
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
As a new instructor I was flying with a college professor of my alma mater who has a tendency to like to speak constantly. As we were entering the traffic pattern for touch and go's he decided to tax my attention to ATC by engaging me in a discussion of the maneuvers we had just practiced. We had requested touch and go's but tower cleared us to land. My confidence level was high because my student was doing well flying and with ATC instructions. I therefore made the critical mistake of concerning myself with the student's pattern procedures (ie. Power, airspeed, descent etc). While turning base the student pointed out traffic departing the other runway and said 'there goes the traffic we were to wait for.' I made the mistake of not confirming that we had been cleared for touch and go. We had actually been cleared to land to hold short of the other runway. We executed a touch and go while climbing out tower 'informed' us of our error. We called the tower on ground and were informed that the matter would be dropped.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA TRAINING FLT EXECUTED TOUCH AND GO WHEN CLEARED TO LAND AND HOLD SHORT OF OTHER RWY. SMA INSTRUCTOR PLT DISTRACTED BY STUDENT'S COMMENTS. NO TRAFFIC CONFLICT. LOW TIME IP.
Narrative: AS A NEW INSTRUCTOR I WAS FLYING WITH A COLLEGE PROFESSOR OF MY ALMA MATER WHO HAS A TENDENCY TO LIKE TO SPEAK CONSTANTLY. AS WE WERE ENTERING THE TFC PATTERN FOR TOUCH AND GO'S HE DECIDED TO TAX MY ATTN TO ATC BY ENGAGING ME IN A DISCUSSION OF THE MANEUVERS WE HAD JUST PRACTICED. WE HAD REQUESTED TOUCH AND GO'S BUT TWR CLRED US TO LAND. MY CONFIDENCE LEVEL WAS HIGH BECAUSE MY STUDENT WAS DOING WELL FLYING AND WITH ATC INSTRUCTIONS. I THEREFORE MADE THE CRITICAL MISTAKE OF CONCERNING MYSELF WITH THE STUDENT'S PATTERN PROCS (IE. PWR, AIRSPEED, DSCNT ETC). WHILE TURNING BASE THE STUDENT POINTED OUT TFC DEPARTING THE OTHER RWY AND SAID 'THERE GOES THE TFC WE WERE TO WAIT FOR.' I MADE THE MISTAKE OF NOT CONFIRMING THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED FOR TOUCH AND GO. WE HAD ACTUALLY BEEN CLRED TO LAND TO HOLD SHORT OF THE OTHER RWY. WE EXECUTED A TOUCH AND GO WHILE CLBING OUT TWR 'INFORMED' US OF OUR ERROR. WE CALLED THE TWR ON GND AND WERE INFORMED THAT THE MATTER WOULD BE DROPPED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.