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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||airport : lgb|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 1600|
msl bound upper : 3000
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : sn|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||descent : approach|
|Route In Use||enroute : on vectors|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
pilot : private
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 34|
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : approach|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
I had been vectored off of V459 over long beach at the shoreline. I was advised to descend and maintain 3000' for vectors to the final approach. I was put on a heading of 150 degrees. When I was approximately 5 NM off shore I advised approach control that I was 'not equipped for over water flight.' approach control apologized, but kept me on the same heading (going out to sea). The controller explained that there was a lot of traffic. Shortly thereafter he gave me a descent to 1600' over the water and I estimate between 15-20 NM out to sea. Does ATC have the authority to mandate that I break a far and jeopardize my safety? Please look into this as it is a common occurrence while on approach into lgb.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PRIVATE ACFT VECTORED AS MUCH AS 15-20 MILES OUT OVER THE OCEAN ON APCH TO LGB. REPORTEER QUESTIONED TRACON IF THIS WAS LEGAL INASMUCH AS HE WAS NOT EQUIPPED FOR OVERWATER FLT.
Narrative: I HAD BEEN VECTORED OFF OF V459 OVER LONG BEACH AT THE SHORELINE. I WAS ADVISED TO DSND AND MAINTAIN 3000' FOR VECTORS TO THE FINAL APCH. I WAS PUT ON A HDG OF 150 DEGS. WHEN I WAS APPROX 5 NM OFF SHORE I ADVISED APCH CTL THAT I WAS 'NOT EQUIPPED FOR OVER WATER FLT.' APCH CTL APOLOGIZED, BUT KEPT ME ON THE SAME HDG (GOING OUT TO SEA). THE CTLR EXPLAINED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF TFC. SHORTLY THEREAFTER HE GAVE ME A DESCENT TO 1600' OVER THE WATER AND I ESTIMATE BETWEEN 15-20 NM OUT TO SEA. DOES ATC HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MANDATE THAT I BREAK A FAR AND JEOPARDIZE MY SAFETY? PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS AS IT IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE WHILE ON APCH INTO LGB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.