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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 106462 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198903 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rsv |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9500 msl bound upper : 9700 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : huf |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Fighter |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8500 |
| ASRS Report | 106462 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : military |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Two ANG fgt's in formation passed directly overhead (approximately 200'). They were first seen at my 2 O'clock position and approximately 1/2 mi. They appeared to be descending, but I took no evasive action as the lead aircraft stopped his descent and passed over me. The aircraft I was flying had an inoperative transponder. I believe huf radar could not paint the primary return of my aircraft. If they could there would still be no altitude readout. In this instance I think the fgt saw me about the same time I saw them. Everybody involved was not looking in the right place at the right time. We should have seen each other at 5-6 miles under the present conditions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FGT FORMATION DESCENDING, NMAC WITH SMA AT CRUISE.
Narrative: TWO ANG FGT'S IN FORMATION PASSED DIRECTLY OVERHEAD (APPROX 200'). THEY WERE FIRST SEEN AT MY 2 O'CLOCK POSITION AND APPROX 1/2 MI. THEY APPEARED TO BE DSNDING, BUT I TOOK NO EVASIVE ACTION AS THE LEAD ACFT STOPPED HIS DSCNT AND PASSED OVER ME. THE ACFT I WAS FLYING HAD AN INOPERATIVE XPONDER. I BELIEVE HUF RADAR COULD NOT PAINT THE PRIMARY RETURN OF MY ACFT. IF THEY COULD THERE WOULD STILL BE NO ALT READOUT. IN THIS INSTANCE I THINK THE FGT SAW ME ABOUT THE SAME TIME I SAW THEM. EVERYBODY INVOLVED WAS NOT LOOKING IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME. WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN EACH OTHER AT 5-6 MILES UNDER THE PRESENT CONDITIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.