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|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : pdm|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 10000|
msl bound upper : 10000
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : ont|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Route In Use||departure sid : sid|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : departure|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||non adherence : published procedure|
other spatial deviation
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
other flight crewa
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Operational Deviation|
Departure control unable to transfer over to next controller. Held to 1000' approximately 2 mi north pdm VOR, then given right turn to 110 degrees. I question terrain clearance (mount baldy) and told to steepen up turn, unable to approve higher altitude. Instructed once again increase bank. Rolled to 30-35 degree to comply after completion of flight I contacted approach supervisor. He was alert to the situation. It was an unsafe clearance with inadequate terrain clearance. Dangerous situation. It could easily have been a serious incident if we had just used shallow bank, or stronger south wind, or turbulence. Very common problem when unable to effect handoff to lax from ont.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR TURNED ACFT TOWARD HIGHER TERRAIN.
Narrative: DEP CTL UNABLE TO TRANSFER OVER TO NEXT CTLR. HELD TO 1000' APPROX 2 MI N PDM VOR, THEN GIVEN RIGHT TURN TO 110 DEGS. I QUESTION TERRAIN CLRNC (MOUNT BALDY) AND TOLD TO STEEPEN UP TURN, UNABLE TO APPROVE HIGHER ALT. INSTRUCTED ONCE AGAIN INCREASE BANK. ROLLED TO 30-35 DEG TO COMPLY AFTER COMPLETION OF FLT I CONTACTED APCH SUPVR. HE WAS ALERT TO THE SITUATION. IT WAS AN UNSAFE CLRNC WITH INADEQUATE TERRAIN CLRNC. DANGEROUS SITUATION. IT COULD EASILY HAVE BEEN A SERIOUS INCIDENT IF WE HAD JUST USED SHALLOW BANK, OR STRONGER S WIND, OR TURB. VERY COMMON PROB WHEN UNABLE TO EFFECT HDOF TO LAX FROM ONT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.