Air carrier medium large transport altitude deviation overshot during climb on new SID from phx.

Attributes
ACN	104211
Time
Date	198902
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : phx
State Reference	AZ
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 16000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : phx tower : phx artcc : zdc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure sid : sid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	104211
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation other

Narrative:

The clearance read picah 1 departure, climb maintain 16000', expect 17000' 3 mins after departure. Contacted departure control through 2600' climbing to 16000', departure controller acknowledged. Leaving 8800' controller requested we descend back to our clearance altitude of 8000'. I explained our clearance was to 16000'. He explained as of 2/thurs/89 initial altitude on departure is 8000'. Nowhere on the SID does it say maintain 8000'. These new procedures should have been better implemented for both pilots and controllers alike. Controller error this time. Both clearance delivery and departure control acknowledged the wrong clearance altitude. Our clearance was 16000'. The readback was 16000', but because of the resectorization of phx's airspace it should have been 8000'. The departure controller should have corrected the clearance altitude on initial callup instead of acknowledging the climb to 16000'.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG ALT DEVIATION OVERSHOT DURING CLIMB ON NEW SID FROM PHX.

Narrative: THE CLRNC READ PICAH 1 DEP, CLB MAINTAIN 16000', EXPECT 17000' 3 MINS AFTER DEP. CONTACTED DEP CTL THROUGH 2600' CLBING TO 16000', DEP CTLR ACKNOWLEDGED. LEAVING 8800' CTLR REQUESTED WE DSND BACK TO OUR CLRNC ALT OF 8000'. I EXPLAINED OUR CLRNC WAS TO 16000'. HE EXPLAINED AS OF 2/THURS/89 INITIAL ALT ON DEP IS 8000'. NOWHERE ON THE SID DOES IT SAY MAINTAIN 8000'. THESE NEW PROCS SHOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IMPLEMENTED FOR BOTH PLTS AND CTLRS ALIKE. CTLR ERROR THIS TIME. BOTH CLRNC DELIVERY AND DEP CTL ACKNOWLEDGED THE WRONG CLRNC ALT. OUR CLRNC WAS 16000'. THE READBACK WAS 16000', BUT BECAUSE OF THE RESECTORIZATION OF PHX'S AIRSPACE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 8000'. THE DEP CTLR SHOULD HAVE CORRECTED THE CLRNC ALT ON INITIAL CALLUP INSTEAD OF ACKNOWLEDGING THE CLB TO 16000'.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.