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|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||airport : ctj|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 3000|
msl bound upper : 4000
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : atl|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft|
|Flight Phase||descent : approach|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : private|
pilot : instrument
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 50|
flight time total : 1225
flight time type : 300
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : approach|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : unable|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Operational Deviation|
Approach plate states 3000'. ATC wanted us at 4000' and it is extremely hard to get down to minimums from the NDB at that altitude. I had to shoot two approachs because of that, because when we got to the airport we were too high to land. Callback conversation with reporter revealed following information. Reporter was descending for procedure turn at 3000'. ATC called and said he should be at 4000'. Confusion prevailed but reporter complied with ATC which resulted in a difficult approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC TOLD REPORTER TO MAKE PROC TURN 1000' HIGHTER THAN SPECIFIED IN APCH PLATE.
Narrative: APCH PLATE STATES 3000'. ATC WANTED US AT 4000' AND IT IS EXTREMELY HARD TO GET DOWN TO MINIMUMS FROM THE NDB AT THAT ALT. I HAD TO SHOOT TWO APCHS BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE WHEN WE GOT TO THE ARPT WE WERE TOO HIGH TO LAND. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED FOLLOWING INFO. REPORTER WAS DESCENDING FOR PROC TURN AT 3000'. ATC CALLED AND SAID HE SHOULD BE AT 4000'. CONFUSION PREVAILED BUT REPORTER COMPLIED WITH ATC WHICH RESULTED IN A DIFFICULT APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.