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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1006134 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201204 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | SJC.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Challenger 300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Route In Use | Other Fairground Visual Runway 30L |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
[We were] cleared for the fairground visual runway 30L. We were at 5;000; flying pilot started to descend prior to the 170 [radial from] sjc. At this point I said 'why are you descending?' he said 'we were cleared for the visual.' I then replied; '170 [radial from] sjc at 5;000.' he stopped the descent and climbed back to 5;000. Norcal then asked if we are familiar with the fairground visual approach. I replied affirmative and at this point we were back at 5;000. We did not descend more then 200 ft. Flying pilot then told me that prior to the 170 sjc radial on the chart it says recommended 5;000. Then in small print at the 170 sjc radial it says mandatory 5;000. The chart is printed with confusion. They need to remove the recommended 5;000 and make it say mandatory prior to the 170 radial.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL300 Captain cleared for the SJC Fairground Visual Runway 30L was confused about the descent clearance because the Chart stated RECOMMENDED 5;000 FT prior to the MANDATORY 5;000 FT SJC 170 constraint and so he began the descent early.
Narrative: [We were] cleared for the Fairground Visual Runway 30L. We were at 5;000; flying pilot started to descend prior to the 170 [radial from] SJC. At this point I said 'why are you descending?' He said 'We were cleared for the visual.' I then replied; '170 [radial from] SJC at 5;000.' He stopped the descent and climbed back to 5;000. NORCAL then asked if we are familiar with the Fairground Visual approach. I replied affirmative and at this point we were back at 5;000. We did not descend more then 200 FT. Flying pilot then told me that prior to the 170 SJC radial on the chart it says RECOMMENDED 5;000. Then in small print at the 170 SJC radial it says MANDATORY 5;000. The chart is printed with confusion. They need to remove the RECOMMENDED 5;000 and make it say MANDATORY prior to the 170 radial.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.